As you might imagine, I’ve had to tell the story a few times. Because like you said, no one does this, it’s very rare anyway, and I’ve been successful in hiring a couple of people out of academia, so I know how hard it is to get people to leave academia.
I’ll try and give the short version of this. I moved around a little bit in my, academic career from different universities, but one of the drawbacks was I always happen to move right before I was going to go on sabbatical and sabbaticals of course are really cool opportunity. When I landed at the University of Arkansas, I made it known far and wide that I was going to stay long enough to get that sabbatical, and personally, because I really wanted the experience of living overseas, for me and my family. This is important to me, and so being on sabbatical, you have a chance to reflect on what you like about what you’re doing, what you don’t like. And I realized I really liked my job as a professor. I will then go back to Arkansas and I’ll be, I’m very happy. I think I’m pretty good at this. I think this would be a good for my next 20 years of my career. But in the middle that sabbatical, I got to got a phone call. I set up an appointment with John White, who was then the CEO and president of Fortna. And he started talking to me about how they were starting an R and D group. They liked my work. And, he said, we’d like to hire one of your students. And so, we talked about it for about an hour. I said, you should just hire me. And he said, you’ll never leave academia. Cause his father is a professor. Former Chancellor at the University of Arkansas. You have tenure, you have an endowed chair position. You’re the director of a research center. You’ll never leave academia. I said, I dunno, it just seems like a great way to keep using my skillsets, but in a slightly different way, I’m very interested in it. So, we talked over about the next year. Before we decided that I wanted to make the transition. So, it was about a year process, and one that was filled with a lot of investigation on both sides, but in the end, I thrilled that I made the decision.